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Size of outdoor box turtle habitat?
I have two box turtles and they are in a 50 gallon tank which I know is too small. So I’m making a list of what I need for an outdoor enclosure and I’m not sure how big to make it. Please don’t say as big as possible. I need an idea of how much space is enough but not too much for two box turtles. Also what is the best to use for substrate? I’m giving them a little pool but I don’t know what to use as substrate. Also, my brother is giving me his russian tortoise and I was going to make a separate enclosure for him. So same questions, what size for two russian tortoises because I may buy another one. And what substrate is best for him?I read that a mixture of play sand, top soil, and some reptile moss is fine. Is that fine or is there something better. Any other advice on an outdoor enclosure for box turtles or russian tortoises would be appreciated.
There is no such thing as too big, so if you have the space and materials, make it as big as you can, but ideally the min should 16 sq ft (or about a 4ft x 4ft enclosure) to start off with and preferably another 2-4 sq feet per extra turtle/torte, so ideally about 20 sq ft for 2 (again ideally). They will need an enclosed box or house, this should be big enough for both the turtles/torts to both fit and turn around in and high enough to hang a heat lamp or two (if needed in your climit). The turtles will need a lil extra room to fit the pool, depending on what size pool you got for them, which should be deep enough for a good soak, but easy to get out of, they should have plenty of walking room around the pool. The sand/soil/moss sounds like a fairly good substrate, though i wouldnt use play sand, just regular landscaping sand that has been rinced alittle, some play sand has added chemicals to deter plant growth and stuf that is harmfully to them. Same with the soil, try to find something that is as close to natural as possible, as if you went out and dug it up and bagged it yourself. When building the enclosures try to keep it in an area that will provide both shade and sun all or most of the day, if your yard is really sunny youll need to provide a shady spot, just in case the turt/tort needs to get out of the sun for a bit. The sides MUST be reinforced, these creatures may be slow but they are strong and are notorious escape artists, and can even climb in some cases, in fact this is how my family got their leopard tort, found him wondering in their yard one day. No idea where he came from.
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